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When a responsible person discovers a security issue, disclosing it properly is difficult
Uses Tesla’s policy as a good example of how companies should do this
“This is not hard stuff and it basically amounts to text on a page. Consider whether your own organisation has something to this effect and is actually ready to handle disclosure by those who attempt to do so ethically. Listen to these people and be thankful they exist; there’s a whole bunch of others out there who are far less charitable and by the time you hear from those guys, it’s already too late.”

RedHat deprecates Btrfs

The Btrfs file system has been in Technology Preview state since the initial release of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6. Red Hat will not be moving Btrfs to a fully supported feature and it will be removed in a future major release of Red Hat Enterprise Linux.
The Btrfs file system did receive numerous updates from the upstream in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.4 and will remain available in the Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7 series. However, this is the last planned update to this feature.

320 Million Freely Downloadable Pwned Password hashes

NOTE: these are SHA-1 hashes, not the raw passwords: 320,335,236 to be precise
Password checking page – that same URL has links for downloading the hashes
To unzip the files, you need p7zip. Command to extract is: 7z x pwned-passwords-update-1.txt.7z
to generate a sha1 hash, Dan used: ‘sha1 -s TechSNAP’ – SHA1 (“TechSNAP”) = c6586a62febc8706d814fe28fe397e9dca146992. Use “tr ‘[a-z]’ ‘[A-Z]'” to upper case.
takes about 0.176ms to locate a hash on a PostgreSQL 9.6 database
Example query construction
Passwords Evolved: Authentication Guidance for the Modern Era
API for using Troy’s service
Troy’s donation page

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Belmont IRL | Ask Noah 14

chris — Mon, 26 Jun 2017 19:19:03 +0000

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Having A Backup Plan | Ask Noah 8

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Three C’s to Tweet By | TechSNAP 304

chris — Wed, 01 Feb 2017 01:23:17 +0000

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Dropbox Kept Files Around For Years Due To ‘Delete’ Bug

Dropbox has fixed a bug that caused old, deleted data to reappear on the site. The bug was reported by multiple support threads in the last three weeks and merged into one issue here. An anonymous Slashdot reader writes
In some of the complaints users reported seeing folders they deleted in 2009 reappear on their devices overnight. After seeing mysterious folders appear in their profile, some users thought they were hacked. Last week, a Dropbox employee provided an explanation to what happened, blaming the issue on an old bug that affected the metadata of soon-to-be-deleted folders. Instead of deleting the files, as users wanted and regardless of metadata issues, Dropbox choose to keep those files around for years, and eventually restored them due to a blunder. In its File retention Policy, Dropbox says it will keep files around a maximum 60 days after users deleted them
If you have sensitive data, do not rely on delete, rely on encryption.
If you have sensitive data, you shouldn’t have it on third-party systems without encryption.
The encryption and decryption should occur on your system, not theirs.
Imagine you deleted those risky files just before an international trip, you get requested to power up your laptop, and bang, there’s those deleted files back….!

Twitter Activist Security – Guidelines for safer resistance

We’ve covered privacy on the Internet before. We’ve stated very clearly that using privacy tools such as Tor is not illegal nor is it suspicious, no more so than someone paying cash at the grocery store.
This guideline is specfically for Twitter, but many of the suggestions can be apply to other social media as well, but I am not sure how well they will travel. Chose carefully
Many people are starting to get politically active in ways they fear might have negative repercussions for their job, career or life. It is important to realise that these fears are real, but that public overt resistance is critical for political legitimacy. This guide hopes to help reduce the personal risks to individuals while empowering their ability to act safely.
I am not an activist, and I almost certainly don’t live in your country. These guidelines are generic with the hope that they will be useful for a larger number of people.
Security Principles To Live By The basic principles of operational security are actually very simple, they’re what we call the three Cs: Cover, Concealment, Compartmentation

Move over skimmers, ‘shimmers’ are the newest tool for stealing credit card info

Consumers and retailers be on guard: there’s a new and more devious way for fraudsters to steal your credit and debit card information.
“Shimmers” are the newest form of credit card skimmers, only smaller, more powerful and practically impossible to detect. And they’re popping up all over the place, says RCMP Cpl. Michael McLaughlin, who sounded the alarm after four shimmers were extracted from checkout card readers at a Coquitlam, B.C., retailer.
“Something this sophisticated, this organized and multi-jurisdictional has all the classic hallmarks of organized crime,” said McLaughlin.
Unlike skimmers, a shimmer — named for its slim profile — fits inside a card reader and can be installed quickly and unobtrusively by a criminal who slides it into the machine while pretending to make a purchase or withdrawal.
Once installed, the microchips on the shimmer record information from chip cards, including the PIN. That information is later extracted when the criminal inserts a special card — also during a purchase or cash withdrawal — which downloads the data. The information is then used to make fake cards.
Shimmers have rendered the bigger and bulkier skimmers virtually obsolete, according to Const. Alex Bojic of the Coquitlam RCMP economic crime unit.
“You can’t see a shimmer from the outside like the old skimmer version,” Bojic said in a statement. “Businesses and consumers should immediately report anything abnormal about the way their card is acting … especially if the card is sticking inside the machine.”
McLaughlin said the Coquitlam retailer detected the shimmers through its newly introduced daily testing of point-of-sales terminals. A test card inserted into the machines kept on getting stuck and the shimmers were found when the terminals were opened.
“We want to get the word out,” said McLaughlin. “Businesses really need to be checking for these kinds of devices and consumers need to be aware of them.”
Bojic said using the tap function of a chip card is one way to avoid being “shimmed.”
“It’s actually very secure. Each tap transfers very limited banking information, which can’t be used to clone your card,” Bojic said.
Krebs wrote about this and has a post which is all about skimmer and shimmer
Not new tech, been around since at least 2015

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OpSec for Script Kiddies | TechSNAP 285

chris — Thu, 22 Sep 2016 07:37:15 +0000

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FBI Arrests Two Alleged Members of Group That Hacked the CIA Director

“Two young men from North Carolina have been charged with their alleged connection to the hacking group “Crackas With Attitude.” The group gained notoriety when it hacked into the personal email account of CIA Director John Brennan last year and in the following weeks claimed responsibility for hacking the Department of Justice, email accounts of several senior officials, and other US government systems.”
“Andrew Otto Boggs, 22, who allegedly used the handle Incursio, or IncursioSubter, and Justin Gray Liverman, who is suspected of using the moniker D3f4ult, were arrested on Thursday, according to a press release by the US State’s Attorney’s Office in the Eastern District of Virginia.”
“Crackas With Attitude, or CWA, first sprung on the hacking scene when they broke into Brennan’s AOL email account in October 2015. The group distinguished itself for openly bragging about their exploits and for making fun of their victims online. After hacking into Brennan’s account, one of the members of the group, known as “Cubed,” said it was so easy “a 5 year old could do it.” After Brennan, the group targeted and hacked the accounts of Director Of National Intelligence James Clapper, a White House official, and others.”
“Much of the time, the group would use social engineering to gain access to accounts. In February, one member of the group explained to Motherboard how they broke into a Department of Justice system, by calling up the relevant help desk and pretending to be a new employee. That hack led in the exposure of contact information for 20,000 FBI and 9,000 DHS employees.”
“The group made heavy use of social media, and in particular Twitter, to spread news of the dumps and mock victims. However, according to the affidavit, Boggs allegedly connected to one of the implicated Twitter accounts (@GenuinelySpooky) from an IP address registered to his father, with whom Boggs lived. Much the same mistake led to Liverman’s identification: an IP address used to access the Twitter handle @_D3F4ULT and another account during the relevant time period was registered to an Edith Liverman. According to the affidavit, publicly available information revealed that Justin Liverman lived with Edith at the time.”
“The affidavit also includes several sets of Twitter direct messages between members of the group.”
Which suggests Twitter may have provided the government with that data, probably under a subpoena
“Liverman seemingly logged his conversations: according to the affidavit, law enforcement found copies of chats on his hard drive, including one where Liverman encouraged Cracka to publish the social security number of a senior US government official. These logs make up a large chunk of the affidavit, laying out the groups alleged crimes in detail, and investigators found other forensics data on Liverman’s computer too.”
It really goes to show how unsophisticated these attackers were

Discovering how Dropbox hacks your mac

“If you have Dropbox installed, take a look at System Preferences > Security & Privacy > Accessibility tab (see screenshot above). Notice something? Ever wondered how it got in there? Do you think you might have put that in there yourself after Dropbox asked you for permission to control the computer? No, I can assure you that your memory isn’t faulty. You don’t remember doing that because Dropbox never presented this dialog to you, as it should have”
“That’s the only officially supported way that apps are allowed to appear in that list, but Dropbox never asked you for that permission. I’ll get to why that’s important in a moment, but if you have the time, try this fascinating experiment: try and remove it.”
“That leaves a couple of questions. First, why does it matter, and second, is there any way to keep using Dropbox but stop it having access to control your computer?”
“There’s at least three reasons why it matters. It matters first and foremost because Dropbox didn’t ask for permission to take control of your computer. What does ‘take control’ mean here? It means to literally do what you can do in the desktop: click buttons, menus, launch apps, delete files… . There’s a reason why apps in that list have to ask for permission and why it takes a password and explicit user permission to get in there: it’s a security risk.”
“The list of authorization “rights” used by the system to manage this “policy based system” is held in /var/db/auth.db database, and a backup or default copy is retained in /System/Library/Security/authorization.plist.”
“The allow-root property specifies whether a right should be allowed automatically if the requesting process is running with uid == 0. This defaults to false if not specified.”
“In other words, if allow-root isn’t explicitly set, the default is that even a process with root user privileges does not have the right to perform that operation. Since that’s not specified in the default shown above, then even root couldn’t add Dropbox to the list of apps in Accessibility preferences. Is it possible then, that Dropbox had overridden this setting in the auth.db? Let’s go and check!””
Basically, by using sqlite directly, rather than the OS X tcc utility, you can override the policy, and add any apps you want to the whitelist. Or worse, any app running as root can do this without you even knowing
“I tested this with several of my own apps and found it worked reliably. It’ll even work while System Preferences is open, which is exactly the behaviour I saw with Dropbox. It remained to prove, though, that this was indeed the hack that Dropbox was using, and so I started to look at what exactly Dropbox did after being given an admin password on installation or launch. Using DetectX, I was able to see that Dropbox added a new folder to my /Library folder after the password was entered”
“As can be seen, instead of adding something to the PrivilegedHelperTools folder as is standard behaviour for apps on the mac that need elevated privileges for one or two specialist operations, Dropbox installs its own folder containing these interesting items”
“the deliciously named dbaccessperm file, we finally hit gold and the exact proof I was looking for that Dropbox was using a sql attack on the tcc database to circumvent Apple’s authorization policy”
“What I do suspect, especially in light of the fact that there just doesn’t seem to be any need for Dropbox to have Accessibility permissions, is that it’s in there just in case they want that access in the future. If that’s right, it suggests that Dropbox simply want to have access to anything and everything on your mac, whether it’s needed or not.”
“The upshot for me was that I learned a few things about how security and authorisation work on the mac that I didn’t know before investigating what Dropbox was up to. But most of all, I learned that I don’t trust Dropbox at all. Unnecessary privileges and backdooring are what I call untrustworthy behaviour and a clear breach of user trust. With Apple’s recent stance against the FBI and their commitment to privacy in general, I feel moving over to iCloud and dropping Dropbox is a far more sensible way to go for me.”
“For those of you who are stuck with Dropbox but don’t want to allow it access to Accessibility features, you can thwart Dropbox’s hack by following my procedure here”
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Proprietors of vDoS, the DDoS for hire service, arrested

“Two young Israeli men alleged to be the co-owners of a popular online attack-for-hire service were reportedly arrested in Israel on Thursday. The pair were arrested around the same time that KrebsOnSecurity published a story naming them as the masterminds behind a service that can be hired to knock Web sites and Internet users offline with powerful blasts of junk data.”
“The pair were reportedly questioned and released Friday on the equivalent of about USD $10,000 bond each. Israeli authorities also seized their passports, placed them under house arrest for 10 days, and forbade them from using the Internet or telecommunications equipment of any kind for 30 days.”
“Huri and Bidani are suspected of running an attack service called vDOS. As I described in this week’s story, vDOS is a “booter” service that has earned in excess of $600,000 over the past two years helping customers coordinate more than 150,000 so-called distributed denial-of-service (DDoS) attacks designed to knock Web sites offline.”
“The two men’s identities were exposed because vDOS got massively hacked, spilling secrets about tens of thousands of paying customers and their targets. A copy of that database was obtained by KrebsOnSecurity.”
“For most of Friday, KrebsOnSecurity came under a heavy and sustained denial-of-service attack, which spiked at almost 140 Gbps. A single message was buried in each attack packet: “godiefaggot.” For a brief time the site was unavailable, but thankfully it is guarded by DDoS protection firm Prolexic. The attacks against this site are ongoing.”
“At the end of August 2016, the two authored a technical paper (PDF) on DDoS attack methods which was published in the Israeli security e-zine Digital Whisper. In it, Huri signs his real name and says he is 18 years old and about to be drafted into the Israel Defense Forces. Bidani co-authored the paper under the alias “Raziel.b7@gmail.com,” an email address that I pointed out in my previous reporting was assigned to one of the administrators of vDOS.”
“Sometime on Friday, vDOS went offline. It is currently unreachable. According to several automated Twitter feeds that track suspicious large-scale changes to the global Internet routing tables, sometime in the last 24 hours vDOS was apparently the victim of what’s known as a BGP hijack.”
“Reached by phone, Bryant Townsend, founder and CEO of BackConnect Security, confirmed that his company did in fact hijack Verdina/vDOS’s Internet address space. Townsend said the company took the extreme measure in an effort to get out from under a massive attack launched on the company’s network Thursday, and that the company received an email directly from vDOS claiming credit for the attack.”
““For about six hours, we were seeing attacks of more than 200 Gbps hitting us,” Townsend explained. “What we were doing was for defensive purposes. We were simply trying to get them to stop and to gather as much information as possible about the botnet they were using and report that to the proper authorities.””
Krebs also got access to a large log file from the vdos site
“The file lists the vDOS username that ordered and paid for the attack; the target Internet address; the method of attack; the Internet address of the vDOS user at the time; the date and time the attack was executed; and the browser user agent string of the vDOS user.”

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All Wimpy’s Vault! | LINUX Unplugged 159

chris — Tue, 23 Aug 2016 22:14:24 +0000

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PowerShell is open sourced and is available on Linux

Today, we are taking the next step in our journey. I am extremely excited to share that PowerShell is open sourced and available on Linux. (For those of you who need a refresher, PowerShell is a task-based command-line shell and scripting language built on the .NET Framework to help IT professionals control and automate the administration of the Windows, and now Linux, operating systems and the applications that run on them.) I’m going to share a bit more about our journey getting here, and will tell you how Microsoft Operations Management Suite can enhance the PowerShell experience.

The Linux Foundation Releases Development Report Highlighting Contributions to the Linux Kernel Ahead of 25th Anniversary of Linux | The Linux Foundation

The report comes just days before the 25th anniversary of the initial release of the Linux kernel by Linus Torvalds on August 25, 1991, and analyzes the work done by over 13,500 developers over more than a decade, as well as more recent trends.

TING

Ting – mobile that makes sense

elementary Hackfest in Paris

Getting Developers in a Room together to work on kickass Open Source Software.

Security and reproducible-build progress in Guix 0.11

The GNU Guix package-manager project recently released version
0.11, bringing with it support for several hundred new packages, a
range of new tools, and some significant progress toward making an
entire operating system (OS) installable using reproducible builds.

Google to drop support for Chrome apps on Windows, Mac and Linux

Google has killed a lot of things in the past, including Google Buzz, Google Wave and Google Reader. Well Google’s grim reaper is at it again. This time, Google Chrome apps will no longer work on Windows, Mac and Linux by 2018. The company says only 1 percent of Chrome users took advantage of this feature. However, Chrome apps will still function on Chrome OS, which powers Chromebooks.

FYI to you #NoMansSky players under #Linux Wine 1.9.17 Breaks No Man's Sky for me. Confirmed to work under 1.9.16 pic.twitter.com/QiPS6JhQAs

— Chris Fisher (@ChrisLAS) August 23, 2016

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Librevault

Open source zero-knowledge peer-2-peer file sync.

Librevault is an open-source peer-to-peer file synchronization program, designed with convenience and privacy in mind.
Our goal is to make a better alternative to BitTorrent Sync and Syncthing.

GPL Version 3
Installing on arch, be sure to have qt5-tools installed.

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Android 7.0 Nougat review—Do more on your gigantic smartphone

Nougat brings a new multitasking split screen mode, a redesigned notification panel, an adjustable UI scale, and fresh emoji. Nougat also sports numerous under-the-hood improvements, like changes to the Android Runtime, updates to the battery saving “Doze” mode, and developer goodies like Vulkan and Java 8 support.

Meizu MX4 Ubuntu Edition review: A flagship Linux smartphone Review | ZDNet

Like the BQ phone, the Meizu MX4 is very much a device for early adopters, since Ubuntu for Phones is still in the development phase. While the €169.90 Aquaris E4.5 is a mid-range phone, the Meizu MX4 delivers considerably more computing power for €299. It runs on a Meizu-customised octa-core MediaTek MT6595 SoC with four ARM Cortex-A17 and four ARM Cortex-A7 cores, with a PowerVR G6200 GPU to handle the graphics, all supported by 2GB of LPDDR3 RAM.

Aquaris M10 Ubuntu Edition Tablet – Features | BQ

The Aquaris M10 Ubuntu Edition combines two different interfaces so you can use it either as a tablet or as a PC. The first module offers all the typical functions of a tablet, while the PC mode is activated automatically when you connect it to a mouse and keyboard.

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Ending Ransomware | TechSNAP 275

chris — Thu, 14 Jul 2016 17:35:38 +0000

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CitiGroup hit with $7 million fine over software bug dating back to 1999

CitiGroup, a large US Financial institution, is being fined for failing to properly report to the US Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC)
According to the SEC, the error [PDF] resulted in the financial regulator being sent incomplete “blue sheet” information for a remarkable 15 years – from May 1999 to April 2014.
The bank was required to send details of all stock transactions, and due to a bug, a number of branches were never included in those reports
The details are quite amusing
“The mistake was discovered by Citigroup itself when it was asked to send a large but precise chunk of trading data to the SEC in April 2014 and asked its technical support team to help identify which internal ID numbers they should run a request on.”
“That team quickly noticed that some branches’ trades were not being included in the automated system and alerted those above them. Four days later a patch was in place, but it wasn’t until eight months later that the company received a formal report noting that the error had affected SEC reports going back more than a decade. The next month, January 2015, Citigroup fessed up to the SEC.”
“It turned out that the error was a result of how the company introduced new alphanumeric branch codes. When the system was introduced in the mid-1990s, the program code filtered out any transactions that were given three-digit branch codes from 089 to 100 and used those prefixes for testing purposes.”
So any transaction with a branch code in that range, was considered test data, and not reported to the government
“But in 1998, the company started using alphanumeric branch codes as it expanded its business. Among them were the codes 10B, 10C and so on, which the system treated as being within the excluded range, and so their transactions were removed from any reports sent to the SEC.”
“The SEC routinely sends requests to financial institutions asking them to send all details on transactions between specific dates as a way of checking that nothing untoward is going on. The coding error had resulted in Citigroup failing to send information on 26,810 transactions in over 2,300 such requests.”
“The SEC was not impressed and said in a statement announcing the fine that the “failure to discover the coding error and to produce the missing data for many years potentially impacted numerous Commission investigations.””
“Broker-dealers have a core responsibility to promptly provide the SEC with accurate and complete trading data for us to analyze during enforcement investigations,” said Robert Cohen, co-chief of the SEC enforcement division’s market abuse unit. “Citigroup did not live up to that responsibility for an inexcusably long period of time, and it must pay the largest penalty to date for blue sheet violations.”
7 Million seems like a relatively small fine for such a large screw up, but it does not appear to have been malicious.

New system to detect ransomware by looking at filesystem patterns

“Our system is more of an early-warning system. It doesn’t prevent the ransomware from starting … it prevents the ransomware from completing its task … so you lose only a couple of pictures or a couple of documents rather than everything that’s on your hard drive, and it relieves you of the burden of having to pay the ransom,” said Nolen Scaife, a UF doctoral student and founding member of UF’s Florida Institute for Cybersecurity Research.
“Attacks most often show up in the form of an email that appears to be from someone familiar. The recipient clicks on a link in the email and unknowingly unleashes malware that encrypts his or her data. The next thing to appear is a message demanding the ransom, typically anywhere from a few hundred to a few thousand dollars.”
“It’s an incredibly easy way to monetize a bad use of software,” said Patrick Traynor, an associate professor in UF’s department of computer and information science and engineering at UF and also a member of the Florida Institute for Cybersecurity Research. He and Scaife worked together on developing CryptoDrop.
“We ran our detector against several hundred ransomware samples that were live,” Scaife said, “and in those case it detected 100 percent of those malware samples and it did so after only a median of 10 files were encrypted.”
“About one-tenth of 1 percent of the files were lost,” Traynor said, “but the advantage is that it’s flexible. We don’t have to wait for that anti-virus update. If you have a new version of your ransomware, our system can detect that.”
Video – Extortion extinction: Ransomware
It seems like it would be fairly trivial to detect the pattern that ransomware uses. I imagine most ransomware creates a new file, named original.ext.locked and then encrypts the contents of the original file, then removes the original
It is possible newer ransomware could use new patterns, like renaming files and overwriting in place, or encrypting files in random order instead of walking the directory tree to make it harder to detect
Additional Coveragge: Phys.org

Dropbox open sources Lepton image compression algorithm, save 22% by losslessly compressing JPEGs

“Lepton achieves a 22% savings reduction for existing JPEG images, by predicting coefficients in JPEG blocks and feeding those predictions as context into an arithmetic coder. Lepton preserves the original file bit-for-bit perfectly. It compresses JPEG files at a rate of 5 megabytes per second and decodes them back to the original bits at 15 megabytes per second, securely, deterministically, and in under 24 megabytes of memory.”
Speed seems very slow, compression is 5 MB/s, and decompression is 15 MB/s
It is not clear if the encoding can be multithreaded across many cores to increase speed, like xz can do. Even without that, in most cases you would be dealing with many image files at once, but even compressing many files at once, that is quite slow
“We have used Lepton to encode 16 billion images saved to Dropbox, and are rapidly recoding our older images. Lepton has already saved Dropbox multiple petabytes of space.”
The article has a very good description of how JPEG encoding works
“The DC coefficient (brightness in each 8×8 block) takes up a lot of room (over 8%) in a typical iPhone photograph so it’s important to compress it well. Most image formats put the DC coefficients before any AC coefficients in the file format. Lepton gets a compression advantage by coding the DC as the last value in each block. Since the DCs are serialized last, there is a wealth of information from the AC coefficients available to predict the DC coefficient. By defining a good and reproducible prediction, we can subtract the actual DC coefficient from the predicted DC coefficient, and only encode the delta. Then in the future we can use the prediction along with the saved delta to get the original DC coefficient. In almost all cases, this technique results in a significantly reduced number of symbols to feed into our arithmetic coder.”
“Lepton can decompress significantly faster than line-speed for typical consumer and business connections. Lepton is a fully streamable format, meaning the decompression can be applied to any file as that file is being transferred over the network. Hence, streaming overlaps the computational work of the decompression with the file transfer itself, hiding latency from the user.”
Because it can be streamed, this means that mobile devices could work via a proxy, that compresses all JPEG content before transmitting it to the mobile device, then an application on the mobile device could decompression it and display the resulting JPEG

Flaw in Windows Printing subsystem affects all versions of Windows

“A remote code execution vulnerability exists when the Windows Print Spooler service does not properly validate print drivers while installing a printer from servers. An attacker who successfully exploited this vulnerability could use it to execute arbitrary code and take control of an affected system. An attacker could then install programs; view, change, or delete data; or create new accounts with full user rights. Users whose accounts are configured to have fewer user rights on the system could be less impacted than users who operate with administrative user rights.”
“Most organizations try to apply the principle of least privilege to the devices in their networks. This works pretty well for things like laptops or desktops since the hardware they use doesn’t change that often. However printers are a bit different. While they still need drivers, printers need to support virtually any user that wants to connect to them. As end-users move through a building, they naturally want to use the printer closest to them. Mobile users expect to be able to easily connect and use a printer when they come into the office. In addition, most organizations don’t standardize on a single printer, and will have multiple models and manufacturers often within a single network.”
“So instead of having system administrators push all possible printer drivers to all workstations in the network, the solution was to develop a way to deliver the driver to a user device right before the printer is used. And this is where Point-and-Print showed up. This approach stores a shared driver on the printer or print server, and only the users of that printer receive the driver that they need. At first glance, this is a practical and simple solution to driver deployment. The user gets access to the printer driver they need without requiring an administrator – a nice win-win.”
“By default, in corporate networks, network admins allow printers to deliver the necessary drivers to workstations connected to the network. These drivers are silently installed without any user interaction and run under the SYSTEM user, with all the available privileges.”
The researchers managed to dissect a firmware update for an existing printer, and modify it to infect Windows clients that load its driver with malware
The malware allowed them access to the target Windows client, as the SYSTEM user
They detail a number of other ways this vulnerability could be exploited:
Watering hole attacks:
Backdooring an existing printer or printer server.
Microsoft print server: driver path: c:\windows\system32\spool\drivers*\3...
Linux/BSD cups server: check for share driver print$ in the configuration.
Multiple vendors support Point-and-Print on the printer itself
Re-flash printer with backdoored drivers.
Create a fake print server and broadcast with auto discovery.
Privilege escalation:
Use the add printer as a privileged escalation mechanism to get system access.
Mitm attack to the printer and inject the backdoored driver instead of the real one.
Going more global with IPP and Webpnp. Send users email with a link, when clicked, it attempts to connect to the (fake?) printer in question, and results in the driver being installed on the target computer
There is more detail in the blog post about infecting a computer remotely
Researcher blog post
Microsoft released a fix for this vulnerability as part of the July patch Tuesday
Official Microsoft Bulletin
Additional Coverage: softpedia

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DropBox Rootkit | TTT 246

chris — Mon, 30 May 2016 16:34:33 +0000

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Robots serving burgers might a lot closer than we thought, Alexa in the browser fails & the Surface Book nightmare no one is talking about.

Then why Dropbox wants in your kernel real bad, Samsung goes full crazy & the Apollo you’ll want to put in your ear.

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Revenge of the Swift | CR 204

chris — Mon, 09 May 2016 14:54:27 +0000

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In a podcast far far away, you asked for it & this week we delivered. It’s code review time, with a twist!

Plus the FUD seems strong with the second Oracle v Google trial, we attempting to do some busting, Dropbox falling back to reality & 30 years later why we still love QBasic.

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Hoopla

Second Oracle V Google Trial FUD

Calling / using apis is the not the issue
Re-implementing them is.
Google Employees were found to have literally copy / pasted Sun / Oracle source and even failed to remove the copyright headers
No material impact on the average dev with the possible exception of Google moving to OpenJDK

Cost cutting at Dropbox and Silicon Valley startup

The change at Dropbox, last valued at $10 billion, shows even the most richly valued and highly funded startups are no longer immune to the changing tides of Silicon Valley.

A weaker VC funding environment and freezing tech-IPO market have forced startups of all sizes to take cost-cutting measures and focus more on profits – signifying a shift in the free-spending, growth-at-all-cost culture that had seeped through Silicon Valley over the past few years.

As startups cut back on perks and delay their IPO, employees could grow frustrated and decide to join larger, more established companies that offer better benefits and stock liquidity.

Swift School

CR204 Code Sample
? VS !
Swift and nil safety
Comparison to Objective-C nil system
Comparison to other languages

Mike’s First Swift .app

Swift as a language
Swift with AppKit
Swift vs ObjC

30 years later, QBasic is still the best

Yes, QBasic is a terrible procedural language. It introduces one to concepts widely considered harmful, uses awkward syntax for implicit declarations, is not case sensitive, is non-zero-based, etc. the list goes on… When developing a skill, it is much better to acquire the right reflexes from the start rather than have to correct years of bad practice. Following this advice, I should have probably started off with the basics of the ruby language which I love. Yet, while most of those QBasic concepts are today generally considered as red flags by our peers, they each served a very specific purpose at the time: to keep the language simple and accessible, a notion that every other language has left behind in favor of flexibility, complexity and logic.

I installed QBasic on my son’s 11″ HP Stream today, having to hack a DOSBox manual installation. He double clicked the icon on his desktop and in a split second, we were in the IDE, greeted with the introduction screen which brought back so many memories to my mind

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Floating on ownCloud 9 | LAS 410

chris — Sun, 27 Mar 2016 17:46:24 +0000

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We risk it all and toss our data into the new ownCloud 9 to give you our review. Find out about using ownCloud as an Evernote killer, Federated servers & the long-term commitment you’re making as an ownCloud user.

Plus Red Hat’s big news, the new Gnome & things go to the next level in our upcoming switch competition.

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ownCloud 9 Review

Federated Sharing – What’s new in ownCloud 9.0

With ownCloud 9.0 we made it even easier to exchange the Federated Cloud IDs. Below you can see the administrator setting for the new Federation App, which will be enabled by default.

The option “Add server automatically once a federated share was created successfully” is enabled by default. This means, that as soon as a user creates a federated share with another ownCloud, either as a recipient or as a sender, ownCloud will add the remote server to the list of trusted ownClouds. Additionally you can predefined a list of trusted ownClouds. While technically it is possible to use plain http I want to point out that I really recommend to use https for all federated share operations to secure your users and their data.

What does it mean that two ownClouds trust each other? ownCloud 9.0 automatically creates a internal address book which contains all users accounts. If two ownClouds trust each other they will start to synchronize their system address books. In order to synchronize the system address books and to keep them up-to-date we use the well known and widespread CardDAV protocol. After the synchronization was successful ownCloud will know all users from the trusted remote servers, including their Federated Cloud ID and their display name. The share dialog will use this information for auto-completion. This allows you to share files across friendly ownClouds without knowing more than the users name. ownCloud will automatically find the corresponding Federated Cloud ID and will suggest the user as a recipient of your share.

Time to Upgrade to ownCloud 9.0!

Why Should I Upgrade?

Read this blog post for 5 reasons to upgrade to a newer ownCloud. A summary:

ownCloud usage grew last year from 2.4 to 8 million so newer releases have far more users
Testing improves, benefiting newer releases more than older, in part because
Backporting is limited to security fixes for releases older than Latest-1
Clients take advantage of features only in newer server versions
We introduce features which improve reliability

Bug#816376: Bug#816376: Unfit upstream
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Maple Runs Linux

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I enjoy a lot of the content at Jupiter Broadcasting and now that I am deriving billable value from your content, I will be becoming a patron over at patreon.com. I also checked out teespring.com and found a JB polo, but unfortunately it is out of stock. If I were to find a JB, LAS, Tech SNAP, Tech Talk Today, BSD Now, or Linux Unplugged polo over there in the future, I would be sure to pick one up. Thanks for the great programming, please keep it up.

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Desktop App Pick

QOwnNotes – cross-platform open source plain-text file notepad

QOwnNotes is the open source (GPL) plain-text file notepad with markdown support and todo list manager for GNU/Linux, Mac OS X and Windows, that (optionally) works together with the notes application of ownCloud.

Weekly Spotlight

Newsbeuter

Newsbeuter is an open-source RSS/Atom feed reader for text terminals. It
runs on Linux, FreeBSD, Mac OS X and other Unix-like operating systems.
Newsbeuter’s great configurability and vast number of features make it a
perfect choice for people that need a slick and fast feed reader that can
be completely controlled via keyboard.

A summary of some of its features:

Subscribe to RSS 0.9x, 1.0, 2.0 and Atom feeds
Download podcasts
Freely configure your keyboard shortcuts
Search through all downloaded articles
Categorize and query your subscriptions with a flexible tag system
Integrate any data source through a flexible filter and plugin system
Automatically remove unwanted articles through a “killfile”
Define “meta feeds” using a powerful query language
Synchronize newsbeuter with your bloglines.com account
Import and exporting your subscriptions with the widely used OPML format
Freely define newsbeuter’s look’n’feel through free color configurability and format strings
Keep all your feeds in sync with Google Reader
Newsbeuter is the Mutt of RSS feed readers.
Not convinced? See for yourself.

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Red Hat becomes first $2b open-source company

Just think: Some people still don’t believe that you can make money from Linux and open-source software. Fools! Red Hat just became the first open-source company to make a cool 2 billion bucks.

GNOME 3.20 Release Notes

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features, as well as many smaller improvements and bug fixes. In total, the
release incorporates 28933 changes, made by approximately 837
contributors.

11 Neat New Features in GNOME 3.20

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Sharing with Intent | WTR 45

chris — Wed, 21 Oct 2015 14:40:26 +0000

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Angela is the Operations Manager of “ALL THE THINGS” at Jupiter Broadcasting but also a mother of three. She discusses her journey in tech as well as her kids’.

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ANGELA: This is Women’s Tech Radio.
PAIGE: A show on the Jupiter Broadcasting Network, interviewing interesting women in technology. Exploring their roles and how they’re successful in technology careers. I’m Paige.
ANGELA: And I’m Angela.
PAIGE: So, today, everybody, we put Angela on the hotseat, ask her a whole bunch of questions about Jupiter Broadcasting, about being a mom, about how technology has improved her life or changed her life, and a lot about sharing and connecting with other people. It’s a really good interview.
ANGELA: Well, I have to agree, if I say so myself. But, before we get into this interview about me, I’d like to mention that you can support the network and Women’s Tech Radio by going to Patreon.com/today. That is the Jupiter Broadcasting bucket. The main bucket where you can support pretty much any show on the network. And when you go there, specifically, you are supporting Women’s Tech Radio. Patreon.com//today.
PAIGE: And we get started with today’s interview by just chitchatting with Angela.
So, Angela, thank you for joining us on Women’s Tech Radio. It’s really fun to finally put you on the mic since you put me on the mic a while ago.
ANGELA: i know, like two months ago, at least.
PAIGE: Yeah, much longer, actually.
ANGELA: Really?
PAIGE: Yeah, it’s been quite a time.
ANGELA: Wow, time flies.
PAIGE: It does.
ANGELA: Oh my gosh, is it going to be a year in November?
PAIGE: I don’t know. We need-
ANGELA: I think we started in November.
PAIGE: We need what, eight more episodes after this to do 52.
ANGELA: Well, that’s if you count by episodes. But I mean, like time.
PAIGE: Well, yeah, time. It’s about November, yeah. That’s crazy.
ANGELA: Wow. Yay.
PAIGE: I love it. So, what people want to know, what I want to know, is kind of like what this journey has been like for you. And I think that we’ve heard some about how you got started in tech. How you, through the different interviews, and I guess I would like to know some of your story of like what it’s been like to really be immersed in tech, especially in this broadcasting end of things. Where we’re in this age of no gatekeepers, you know, you can just put things out on the interwebs, like we do with this show. What has that done to your life? How has it been interesting? How has it be, like kind of coming from a semi-technical background into this media that’s so richly technical on both sides; where the topics of Jupiter Broadcasting are technical and the work itself is technical. Talk to me about that.
ANGELA: Okay. So I think from that, I would like to talk about I have always been one that has wanted to help others and educate others, and that is kind of the foundation of anything I do. And the technology that has developed over the last 10 years just magnificently supports it. It just is. It’s completely natural and even in middle school when we first started using technology, you know, I have the LiveJournal account. You know, I was dabbling in the small parts of the internet, but then, well being with somebody that always wanted the latest technology really helped, you know. I started on a Mac and I really, for some reason, I guess it could have been anything. Actually, you know what, i didn’t start on a Mac, but once I started on a Mac, I guess is what I mean. I feel like it really opened up my opportunities. I started using Soundtrack. That was specifically the thing that I moved to Mac for.
PAIGE: So, for people who don’t know, what’s Soundtrack?
ANGELA: Soundtrack is recording and music compilation software and it, it was like some crazy amount of money, like $300 or $400 at the time. This would have been like 2002. I was writing songs and I was using software that ran on Linux before switching to Soundtrack. But when I went into that Apple store and they had Soundtrack on demo, I grabbed a couple tracks and I put something together and it was amazing. And then a couple weeks later I bought it and I tried it. And I assembled those same tracks and now I have a song that I made. It was really cool. So I am a very creative person and that is another way that the creativity and the educational or desire to educate aspect really do goh hand in hand. I was a mommy blogger. That’s kind of been on hiatus for a little while. I do the Fauxshow, which is really a show that is whatever I want to talk about, but I always to grab things that–like if I told you that I was going to do a show on a certain topic, you might be like eh, yeah. But once you were there, you would be interested in it, because it would be a lot of different sources. And whether they be right or not, that’s debatable, but it’s not a real show, you know.
PAIGE: Yeah, right. It’s a fake show, a faux show.
ANGELA: Yeah, so in terms of Jupiter Broadcasting, I was a lot of the backend behind the scene operational side. You know, the accounting, the, you know, all that behind the scenes stuff. But once we put up the green screen in our third bay garage and started doing show there, I started getting more interested in the chat room and would hang out after Jupiter At Night. And that’s kind of where the Fauxshow started. I started just talking to the audience and the audience talked back and it gave them a personal touch and also involvement. And I really think that it solidified a whole new community aspect of Jupiter Broadcasting. And just from there, I just started getting to know the community and being more active in the IRC, which automatically got me more involved with the technology stuff and then now here I am doing Women’s Tech Radio.
PAIGE: Right. Awesome. Yeah, I mean, I”ve always been really impressed by your ability to share across a lot of different platforms.
ANGELA: I think people would call me an oversharer.
PAIGE: Yeah. Well, I don’t know. I think that you have a great way, like in person you connect with people really well, and I get to witness that. But I think that you, and I feel like that’s kind of a feature for me as well. But you also have this awesome way of bridging that to a digital audience. Like to people, like, even before I met you, I kind of felt like I knew you, because I had seen the Fauxshow and I had seen your Twitter. I had been following you on Google+ for a couple years. And then I showed up and I met you and I’m like, this is totally the Angela that I expect. You have a great ability to bring yourself across. How do you do that? Is that natural?
ANGELA: I guess it must be.
PAIGE: Yeah.
ANGELA: Yeah.
PAIGE: Does it just like occur to you, hey this is a moment that I should share or do you have to actively think about it?
ANGELA: Well, a lot of things, when I, when I make the decision to share something, it’s because I think that it will, likely it will help somebody else. That’s why I started MomVault, my mommy blog. Because there are things–it’s kind of like, it’s not that I want to share the hard sides of parenting or anything, because there’s a lot of harder articles in there, like getting allergy testing and cosmetic surgery for Dylan and things that people don’t want to relive or share or whatever, but there are so many moms and dads out there that kind of rely on knowing that they aren’t the only person that has to hold down their son while their ear is sewn back on.
PAIGE: I mean, it’s it’s the reason we do this show.
ANGELA: Yeah.
PAIGE: It’s just to know that you’re not alone.
ANGELA: Yeah.
PAIGE: That this is possible. You can get through it. You’re not alone.
ANGELA: Yeah.
PAIGE: I think that’s a really important, that’s a really fascinating way. I’ve always struggled with sharing. Some of my friends have been like, you really shout tweet, and I’m like, I don’t know how to tweet. Well, I know physically how to tweet.
ANGELA: No, she doesn’t. I know her in person, she doesn’t.
PAIGE: It’s so true. I’ve had people, I’m as bad with Facebook too. Somebody was like, you need to change your profile picture on Facebook. It’s been there for a long time.
ANGELA: I was going to tell you that earlier.
PAIGE: Oh man, okay.
ANGELA: Oh my gosh.
PAIGE: I have to sit down and really, really dig around every time, because I just don’t do it. I’m just not a natural sharer. But I think, thinking about it as helping people, I like that.
ANGELA: Yeah, and I feel that due to my creativity and my directness, bluntness-
PAIGE: I like directness, that works.
ANGELA: And conciseness, or being concise, my articles aren’t, there’s not a lot of fluff and I’m not trying to make money. You know, like on MomVault, but it just, I just can, I don’t know. I do like helping people and I know that MomVault has helped a lot of people. I think Fauxshow has helped a lot of people.
PAIGE: Yeah. I think even your Instagram is helpful. I love seeing your Instagram stuff. It kind of, I’ll be like rolling along and then I’ll see this, you’re, they’re always so positive. You just have so much positivity in your photography.
ANGELA: Well, I try. There’s some negatives, but yeah.
PAIGE: Okay. Well they are by in large.
ANGELA: Yeah. The thing is, this is weird to say, but in the past somebody has asked me, oh my gosh, that’s a great picture, what camera did you use? And I kind of laugh. It’s not the camera, it’s the person.
PAIGE: Yeah.
ANGELA: It’s me. Like, yes, it took a good picture, but I framed it. I worked with the depth. I worked with the colors and the lighting and figured out how to capture the moment. And I choose only to share those pictures, because I do take a lot more pictures than I share.
PAIGE: Yeah, well.
ANGELA: As would anybody. I don’t keep all those pictures. You know, there’s a lot of photo 101 things that I think I could probably do a whole show about.
PAIGE: Could you do a Fauxshow about it?
ANGELA: Probably. I have done quite a few Fauxshows about the photos, but anybody can take pictures of their kids. But what really–who cares about my kids? You know? Like who cares. There are people that care and they care because of the thought and the time and effort behind the picture.
PAIGE: Yeah, you put intention into it.
ANGELA: Yeah.
PAIGE: Yeah.
ANGELA: And it’s not just, oh here they’re smiling again.
PAIGE: You made me care about a snail the other day. You had this picture of a snail and I was like, that is totally true.
ANGELA: Right. It was about the little things in life.
PAIGE: Yeah.
ANGELA: Yeah. And I just– I didn’t step on him on the way to or from the bus stop. On the way to the bus stop I thought, I’m going to take a picture of that snail on the way back. And I did. I got down on the sidewalk and I took a picture of the snail. I took one where it had just the pavement as the background, and then I took another one, because I was like, oh the sun is shining over there. Maybe I can get a glow on the snail. So I took two pictures and I chose that second one that you ended up seeing on Instagram.com/MomVault.
PAIGE: Nice plug.
ANGELA: I know, right? So, I think everything I do has meaning and I hope that it would help other people in any way. I know that there are a lot of viewers, listeners of Jupiter Broadcasting that see my pictures on G+, Twitter, Instagram, or Facebook that, not rely on it, but it’s very, very welcome.
PAIGE: It’s a value add to my day.
ANGELA: Yeah. Unlike maybe other people in their life that add pictures that don’t necessarily have the charm, the quality, or the focus. Which, I’m not trying to put people down, at all. I”m just-
PAIGE: No, you have a skill for that. It’s definitely there. And the intention, it means a lot. Like art without intention is just craft.
ANGELA: Yes. Yes.
PAIGE: I think.
ANGELA: Yes.
PAIGE: I think that’s the big differentiator between craft and art. Craft is something you can do; art is something with intention.
ANGELA: Yes.
PAIGE: And I realize that may be a really over simplification and some of my art major friends are going to be upset with me for saying that.
ANGELA: Right.
PAIGE: But that’s my take. And I love that about your work. It’s part of working with you. You always intention, which is great.
ANGELA: And attention to detail. That’s for sure.
PAIGE: Yeah. Yeah. Which is a nice add to me.
ANGELA: But I really like the social networking. I love the fact that people from around the world watch my show or listen or see my pictures and comment on it.
PAIGE: Yeah. The way technology has changed that is mind blowing.
ANGELA: Uh-huh.
PAIGE: I just can’t even really actually wrap my head around that.
ANGELA: Yeah. And honestly, it took me so long to get on instagram, and I was such a snob about it. I’m like, man, who wants all their pictures to be square. And now, like even though my phone has the square option, I still them full, but I, I’m like, okay, will that fit in a square.
PAIGE: You eye is automatically looking for a square.
ANGELA: Yeah, it kind of changes, it kind of changes how I take pictures.
PAIGE: I am going to call you out on something thought.
ANGELA: Okay.
PAIGE: You’ve got to fix the video thing. The portrait video has got to go, man.
ANGELA: Oh, that wasn’t me.
PAIGE: That wasn’t you? Okay. Good.
ANGELA: Yeah, that was, that was Jenny, yeah.
PAIGE: Okay. Good.
ANGELA: But yes, I am guilty of that though. And I am guilty of taking more portraits than landscape. I need to do more landscape.
PAIGE: Yeah. I’m a landscape junky, but that’s because I grew up–when I worked as a photographer for a while I was doing landscape photography and architecture photography, so it’s always landscape, especially for architecture.
ANGELA: Is landscape for landscape?
PAIGE: I know, shocking. Shocking.
ANGELA: It’s a lot easier to frame something square using portrait, to me. Even though, regardless, either way you know that-
PAIGE: How do you–so do you like still apply photography basics, like two thirds to square? Does that work?
ANGELA: I don’t know.
PAIGE: Do you know the two-thirds rule?
ANGELA: I don’t think so.
PAIGE: Oh, awesome.
ANGELA: I know, right?
PAIGE: The rule of thirds. So the idea is that if you break things up into three sections; one section, two sections, three sections. I’m using hand gestures which is super helpful for the radio. But that the, if you break a rectangle into three sections the focus of your photography should land on the separation between either section one and two or section two and three.
ANGELA: Oh, no. No. I don’t, I don’t use that. But, I’m not–okay, so a lot of people think a good picture is a centered picture.
PAIGE: No, that’s exactly what that’s fighting against.
ANGELA: No, I know. I know. And I do that. I do do centered sometimes. But there was a picture recently of Abby with a quote, and I intentionally had her off to the side so that I could put the quote there. So I don’t necessarily follow that rule, but I don’t stick to centering.
PAIGE: It’s internal, yeah.
ANGELA: Yes, correct.
PAIGE: Cool.
ANGELA: I have variety.
PAIGE: I believe that. I’ve seen it. So, a little talk, big switch here. I”m going to use some insider info. You’ve got three kids.
ANGELA: Oh man, now everybody knows.
PAIGE: No, that’s not the insider info.
ANGELA: Oh.
PAIGE: I know that they all use computers.
ANGELA: Yes.
PAIGE: And what do you think, like as a mom, how do you approach that? There’s a lot of information out there about-
ANGELA: Yes.
PAIGE: It’s good, it’s bad. How do you–and I know that because we’ve just talked about the fact that you’re always acting with intention, how do you do that intentionally with your kids.
ANGELA: Okay. That is a great question, Paige. So i–my first born is a son and I imagined him holding a mouse and keyboard at like a year.
PAIGE: Yeah, well with the house that he’s growing up in, right?
ANGELA: Right.
PAIGE: Yeah.
ANGELA: But was actually not until his fifth birthday, right? No, sixth birthday, just before his sixth birthday that I introduced him to the keyboard and mouse.
PAIGE: Oh wow.
ANGELA: On my computer.
PAIGE: So before that, was he still using tablets or something?
ANGELA: Yes. He was using iPads, yes.
PAIGE: Okay.
ANGELA: And he understands them freakishly well. All three of my kids do. But there was a little bit if a curveball with Dylan with the keyboard and mouse, but Minecraft is a good motivation.
PAIGE: He’s determined because of Minecraft. It’s a good motivator.
ANGELA: Yes. Yes. Perfect.
PAIGE: Had he done Minecraft, so jumping in, had he done it on the iPad first?
ANGELA: Yes. Pocket edition.
PAIGE: Okay.
ANGELA: Yeah. And I honestly cannot do it on the iPad, because it’s weird.
PAIGE: I haven’t tried.
ANGELA: You have to use both hands. Which, I know, it sounds like a really–it’s just so weird on a touch screen.
PAIGE: You’re old now.
ANGELA: I know. Yeah, he reminds me of that every day when he’s like, oh mom ,did you know about this in Minecraft. I’m like, yeah, I’m been playing Minecraft for four years, but no, I never knew that. Or that’s new. That’s an update since I’ve played. Just all three of the kids have done really well with learning on Ipads. Once Dylan started on his laptop, Abby expressed interest as well. And I wanted them to be able to play Minecraft together. So she actually started just after she turned four, or I guess, yeah, ish. She is four right now and she is playing Minecraft on the computer. I made it fun. I did L and R for left and right on her mouse. I did different stickers so she could learn WASD. And then also added stickers for esc and one other one that I can’t remember. But basically, it made it a lot easier for her to learn it.
PAIGE: Wow.
ANGELA: Yeah.
PAIGE: Full disclosure. I was hanging out with Abby and she was obsessed and asking all night last night if she could show me how to play Minecraft.
ANGELA: I know, yeah.
PAIGE: Which is hilarious, because she would actually have to show me how to play Minecraft, because I have not ever played. Well, I played for literally five minutes on a Raspberry Pie once, because it’s the one thing they include on the Raspberry Pie.
ANGELA: Oh, that’s funny.
PAIGE: Yeah, that’s it. At some point she will have to teach me how to play Minecraft.
ANGELA: Well, I ran into an issue where her iPad can no longer play Minecraft, because the OS is no longer updatabalbe.
PAIGE: Is iit a 2 or?
ANGELA: Yes. And I accidently did a Minecraft update just broke it. So she plays on her computer now. But that freed up her iPad so that Bella could play on it. And so there’s educational games on there. Learning her ABCs, learning how to count, just learning the whole touchscreen interface. And I rely on that heavily.
PAIGE: How old is Bella?
ANGELA: She’s two. She just turned two. I rely on that heavily in the morning when she gets up between 4:30 and 6:00. I leave the iPad on the beanbag in my room and she comes in on her own and sits down and plays it.
PAIGE: I’m really impressed. I have a nephew, he’s three, and he loves the iPad. It’s definitely a reward for him. It’s very careful, like when he can use the iPad and when he can’t. Especially because he’s a bit jack smash, so he likes to smash things. So, the iPad, of course, being a very expensive piece–and he hates the case–like we got one of the kid case things and that was good when he was two, but now it’s no, he won’t touch that one. He has to have the real iPad. But the amount that he has learned on the iPad is really impressive. I think the educational games have really stepped up their game from when I first looked at them. Do you think it’s like–do you worry about them spending too much time on these devices?
ANGELA: Yes and no. There’s something that I have done very right, and I can’t pinpoint what it is. But I can say that my kids have a really good balance of outdoor play, social play. And by social play I just mean like when we’re at parks they play with other kids. When we’re at the children’s museum they play with other kids. We’ve done a lot of play dates. I literally at one point would drive the kids to the park, let them out, let them play for two minutes, and then say okay let’s get in the car. Just to get them used to it. Because parks are fun and they want to stay there, but I needed them to get over the, I want to stay here. Why can’t-
PAIGE: This is going to sound terrible, especially to all the moms out there, but you worked on recall with your kids.
ANGELA: Yeah.
PAIGE: Yeah, that’s what we call it with dogs.
ANGELA: Okay. Yeah.
PAIGE: They’ll come when you call.
ANGELA: Same thing with technology.
PAIGE: Oh, okay.
ANGELA: They don’t freak out when I say no to TV. They don’t freak out when I turn off the TV.
PAIGE: I have noticed that.
ANGELA: Yeah, they know that it will still be there tomorrow or later, or whatever and that I’m redirecting them, or that I’m redirecting them to something that could be equally or more fun. Or feed themselves.
PAIGE: So did you do the same sort of thing where you kind of set small time limits for a while so they got used to that or was it just kind of more natural on that?
ANGELA: It was very organic. There’s never really been a time limit. There was a slight concern when Dylan developed a tick where he was squinting his eyes a lot and I thought, oh gosh, maybe it’s because he’s sitting too close to his iPad.
PAIGE: Yeah.
ANGELA: So I did limit it for two days as a temporary thing, but then he just got over it.
PAIGE: Okay.
ANGELA: I have never really done hard fast, but if in a pinch and I need to get work done and they can be–the older kids can be playing Minecraft and Bella can be on the iPad, yeah, we’ll do it.
PAIGE: And do you guys use the parental features on the iPad-
ANGELA: Yes.
PAIGE: Where you can lock down certain apps?
ANGELA: Absolutely. I also use it on Abby’s computer, though I recently had to take it off, because Minecraft runs a lot of websites in the background.
PAIGE: Huh.
ANGELA: Yeah, I don’t know what that is about, but every five seconds it was popping up with a parental control. You can’t access this website. Allow once or always. And then I’d have to type in my password. Then it would happen again next time. So it was really–in fact, I guess OS 10 switched away from using, well I don’t know if it was OS 10 of Mojang, but the Minecraft launcher no longer uses Java and so when I got the new launcher it couldn’t fully download the executable, because the websites websites were blocked.
PAIGE: Interesting.
ANGELA: I couldn’t figure out why the launcher wasn’t working and so I signed out and then, or signed in as an administrator.
PAIGE: I have to say, for as big a market as kids are, I used to work professionally as an in-home technician and I would go places. And one of the most requested things was parental setups, because it’s so confusing. It’s so not supported by so many things.
ANGELA: Have you looked in OS 10 parental controls? It’s fantastic.
PAIGE: No, they’re really good, but they’re complicated for non-technical people.
ANGELA: Well, maybe.
PAIGE: Maybe.
ANGELA: Because the default is, you can strap down, no websites for these educational ones, and they’re actually meant for kids. It’s perfect.
PAIGE: Right.
ANGELA: Then you can add websites that are okay. Which, obviously, there are a lot of websites so you would run into the constantly being limited.
PAIGE: Yeah.
ANGELA: But it has only allow the computer to be signed in during these times and after an hour, that was all very user friendly.
PAIGE: Oh, okay.
ANGELA: I haven’t used it yet, because Abby doesn’t really need it. They play Minecraft every once in awhile, but I was so impressed with that when I saw it. It would be, you could set it by day.
PAIGE: I actually used a parental control account when I first started working remotely to limit myself to only my work sites.
ANGELA: Ah, good for you.
PAIGE: Because I was having focus problems.
ANGELA: An you locked your phone, right?
PAIGE: I would log in-
ANGELA: You locked your phone away.
PAIGE: Well, at the time the phone was not great for that sort of thing. It was tiny. It was like iPhone 3 or whatever so it was a tiny, tiny screen. Not cool like they are now, but it’s really cool. So, you’ve kind of had this journey. You’re a mom, you’re working in a small business, it’s all in tech. Have you found that it just kind of flow together with your life? Do you feel like having a career that is technology based and kind of some of the, the freedom that we get because of that has worked well with being a mom? Has it been bad, because you can kind of–because you can work anywhere, do you work more? Like-
ANGELA: Right. Well, that is a very loaded question, because it’s not like working for a company remote, right? Like a different company.
PAIGE: Right.
ANGELA: When you work for yourself there, it’s really hard to limit yourself to 8:00 to 5:00 or whatever. I think it’s definitely been a struggle, because I had to adjust my perspective and expectations of working while having three kids. You know, getting mad at them because I can’t get a task done is just–it’s just not okay.
PAIGE: That’s just bad for everybody.
ANGELA: Yeah, and so, and because of that I decided that I needed solid blocks of time where I could focus and so about two years ago I hired a nanny that would come into the house a couple days a week, give me that ability to focus, and then the kids–I mean, I wasn’t neglecting the kids, but obviously, I can’t focus on them and the company at the same time.
PAIGE: Yeah, I mean, it’s not neglect. You’re setting up quality time for both, because it means that when your’e with the kids-
ANGELA: Exactly.
PAIGE: You’re with the kids. And when you’re with the company you’re with the company.
ANGELA: Right. Yes. Yeah. So it’s definitely a struggle and adjustment and I think it just varies, really from person to person and situation to situation, but you just have to–I’m of the mind–and this happened really early on when Dylan was an infant, or almost almost a year old, that really they are my life. They are the priority. They are the focus. And they will pretty much always come first.
PAIGE: Yeah.
ANGELA: And that’s pretty well, I think, relayed in, in my photography.
PAIGE: Yeah, i think in the way that you share.
ANGELA: Yeah.
PAIGE: Also in the way that you kind of–the way you move through life it’s very obvious that your kids are that level of importance to you. But it seems so healthy. I’ve very impressed by that.
ANGELA: Yeah.
PAIGE: I’m not going to lie. You really impress me as a mom and as a not mom. That’s kind of hard to do, because I don’t know a lot about momming.
ANGELA: Sure.
PAIGE: Is that a word? Momming.
ANGELA: Yeah, coined right here, Women’s Tech Radio.
PAIGE: There you go. I think mothering is the appropriate term.
ANGELA: Mothering, yep.
PAIGE: Yes. Which sounds like, I don’t know.
ANGELA: Don’t add an S, it’s not smothering.
PAIGE: Oh, that’s terrible. I love it. You’re so funny.
ANGELA: I know. No.
PAIGE: So what has been the hardest part about tech for you? Because I know we’ve talked some and you’ve been–like some of interviews that we’ve done-
ANGELA: Yes. Right.
PAIGE: You kind of get this glassy look where you’re like, I wish I understood. And it’s not just a glassy look. It’s like a look of, I wish I understood more of what you guys were talking about.
ANGELA: Yeah, well, you know, the inferior complex or whatever.
PAIGE: Imposter Syndrome?
ANGELA: That is exactly what I meant, yes. That definitely happens, but not like–I feel like if I just, if I just learned a little bit it would give me enough in to have a better perspective, but because I haven’t been able to take a class or a course or learn one language or any kind of programing or whatever. I know a little bit of HTML, but I just, yeah. I feel like if I learned one language it would help me kind of better understand other languages.
PAIGE: Yeah.
ANGELA: And other things.
PAIGE: Honestly, it’s the fundamentals help you, it’s vocabulary.
ANGELA: Exactly.
PAIGE: Most of learning programming is vocabulary.
ANGELA: Yes. Yes.
PAIGE: At the beginning at least. I mean later on there’s all sorts of other things.
ANGELA: Right. Right. And I haven’t exactly had the time to focus or–I’d really like to do Linux Academy.
PAIGE: Yeah.
ANGELA: Or some other kind of-
PAIGE: Codecademy or whatever.
ANGELA: Yeah. To get to learn stuff. But I don’t know. I mean, I don’t know, because I don’t know it. I don’t know if that’s a direction. I know that I like database. But I don’t know if I could do that on a daily basis. You know? Or if that would my passion or career. Right now, I’m pretty satisfied with the business operational side of things.
PAIGE: ANd you are very good at it.
ANGELA: And social networking. But I’m not opposed to learning more.
PAIGE: You know, I don’t even think necessarily I’m going to look at you and say, well you should be a programer, it’s an excellent career. Well, of course it’s an excellent career. I like it. I love it. But I think that, you know, I’m not quite on the everybody should learn to code train. I think anybody who has interest should try it. You know, like anything else. How do you know if you like ice cream if you don’t try it.
ANGELA: Right.
PAIGE: Trust me, you’ll probably like ice cream.
ANGELA: Right. Unless you’re my kids and you ask if it can be warm. Yeah.
PAIGE: Wow.
ANGELA: Yeah.
PAIGE: That’s a thing. So do they like bread pudding?
ANGELA: I’ve never fed them bread pudding.
PAIGE: It’s like warm ice cream. You should try.
ANGELA: Gross.
PAIGE: It’s an English thing.
ANGELA: Okay.
PAIGE: I’m super English. It happens. Well, I think that I would totally be happy to commit to, we should do a lesson on air.
ANGELA: I think so too.
PAIGE: Okay. We’ll look up some stuff. We’ll talk about some options. We could either do a stack talk where we talk about what actually makes all the stuff function or we could talk about a specific language or maybe both.
ANGELA: Now, keep in mind that I’m very, very direct. So, and I’m going to ask stupid questions.
PAIGE: There is no stupid questions.
ANGELA: Well, okay. I’m going to ask questions that will probably make you giggle.
PAIGE: You’d be surprised. I’ve taught hundreds of beginners at this point.
ANGELA: Okay. Okay.
PAIGE: So, I’m not worried about it.
ANGELA: Okay.
PAIGE: Yeah, I think that, as long as people are asking questions it means they’re engaging.
ANGELA: Right.
PAIGE: If you sit there and don’t ask question, that’s when I’m like, are you stupid or something son?
ANGELA: Wow.
PAIGE: Yeah, no, not quite.
ANGELA: Judgement.
PAIGE: Yeah, super judge. No, you know, I’m going to call you out. You should engage. Ask questions. Anybody who is out there trying to learn to code, don’t feel like it’s a stupid question. At some point somebody had to figure it out. And, you know, maybe you’re working with one of the savants who started coding when they were six, but the likelihood of that is rare.
ANGELA: Right.
PAIGE: I remember, I spent almost six months trying to just understand the very, very basic concept of object oriented programing. Just understanding what it was. I just couldn’t even get my head around like waht is this? Not even just how to do it. That was a whole separate journey. It was like, I don’t get it. I don’t get it. And it look going to four or five different meetups, asking a whole bunch of questions, finally finding a book that kind of filled in those gaps. If I hadn’t asked those questions, I’d still be stuck. And they felt like, of course they felt like dumb questions. I was years into my programming journey and I don’t get this really fundamental concept, like what the heck.
ANGELA: Yeah. I took an environmental class in college where I was the only person to ever ask questions.
PAIGE: Oh my goodness, that’s terrible.
ANGELA: Yeah.
PAIGE: I hope the rest of the class failed.
ANGELA: Well, I don’t know, but nobody really had very high grades. But I was complemented by other students about how I was able to ask questions regardless, you know, just because I wanted to know.
PAIGE: If you’ve got a question, especially if you’re sitting in a room full of people, likelihood is someone else has that same question.
ANGELA: I know.
PAIGE: And they’re just not willing to ask it.
ANGELA: Yep.
PAIGE: Yep. And it sucks. I’m totally that person. I step up and I ask questions, because I know that I can. I know that people need it, but I hope other people will do it too. The pivotal question, what are you the most excited about about technology?
ANGELA: I knew. I knew you were going to say that.
PAIGE: Well, then I’m going to ask you the stack question too, so.
ANGELA: Uh, I don’t know what that is.
PAIGE: That’s okay.
ANGELA: Okay. So, um, I don’t know anybody at st-, no that’s slack. Okay. Technology. I am really excited about user experience. Essentially one of the interviews that we did today. The Cornbread app has my mind blow. I really hope that we see more companies that provide something that creates an almost all inclusive personal touch experience built on a community. I’m really like the community oriented everything. That is just so cool to me.
PAIGE: What I said, technology for connection, not consumption.
ANGELA: Yes. Yes. Exactly. We can all be on the internet for hours consuming, but, well, I was going to say what is the value, but there is value in that. But I really like the connection.
PAIGE: Yeah. I do think that we’ve–you know, and I rail against this and a lot of my friends know I’m fairly anti-Facebook and even Twitter, I’m much more picky about things. Because I think that there’s a lot of this mindlessness that goes on now.
ANGELA: Yeah.
PAIGE: You know, it’s the same with where TV is or was. You know, at the same time, you can just kind of sit there and you aren’t getting anything out of it except distraction.
ANGELA: Right.
PAIGE: And distraction and escape can be really valuable. Like I don’t deny that. I definitely have my moments where I’m like, I’m just going to go look at Facebook for half an hour, because I just need to zone out. But that’s what I’m doing, I’m zoning out. I’m not adding to myself. I’m not adding to my community. And I think that being able to separate that and find the ways where we are providing value to ourselves and to each other is really important. I think that tech is, we’re on the verge of some of those breakthroughs again.
ANGELA: Yeah.
PAIGE: Like with Cornbread.
ANGELA: Also, i did a recent–well, I guess it’s probably been over a year now, but I did a Fauxshow on the Buy Nothing pay groups. The Buy Nothing groups on Facebook. It’s so amazing. In our city it was split into five different groups, because we’re big enough. And I am getting to know all of my neighbors. And so I posted on the Buy Nothing, where you can either give stuff away or accept things. You know, ask, hey I need this. I had put, you know, I am looking for anything owl related for my daughter’s birthday. She’s going to be two soon. You know, this was like in July. And one gal, she had an owl shirt that I could wear. And it was perfect. IT was one size too big, but, which is actually flattering, because, you know, so it was good. and it was black, which is perfect, with silver, and I love silver. It was just so perfect. And then as I was picking it up and meeting her she said, oh, do you have a cake being made yet? And I was like, well no. And she said, let me do her cake. And, you know, honestly the skeptic in me was like, I don’t know. I mean, I could see her living condition. It wasn’t horrible, but I’m like, I don’t know if I really want her, like can she ever make a cake. Is this one of those people that thinks they can do something.
PAIGE: You just never know.
ANGELA: But I’m not going to burst the bubble. I was like, yeah, sure.
PAIGE: Good. Yeah, step out in faith.
ANGELA: I’ll pick up and maybe, maybe it will go in the garbage and maybe it will be amazing. It was amazing. I was amazing.
PAIGE: I think it’s really, it’s sad awesome to me that we have to go out-
ANGELA: Yeah, I know.
PAIGE: We essentially have to send things into space and let them come back to connect us to the people right next to us. So, it’s sad and awesome. It’s like, oh man, I wish I could just go knock on my neighbor’s door, but at the same time-
ANGELA: Yeah, but we used to have to use horses.
PAIGE: Yeah. Yeah.
ANGELA: It’s not much different.
PAIGE: No, it’s not. And we’re definitely-
ANGELA: Like, there’s even more connectivity than back then.
PAIGE: Yeah. I agree with you. I love, as excited as I am about like wearables and internet of things and all these other interesting parts and smart homes, and some day I will build Jarvis. This is on my to-do list. The fact that I can start to use technology to connect with the people who are physically around me is so valuable to me. And especially someone who, I work remotely. I work by myself. Without things like meetup, I would be a really miserable person.
ANGELA: Yeah.
PAIGE: Meetup.com has changed my life.
ANGELA: Yeah, and really, the IRC changed my life. I’m like, wow there’s a whole community out there. There’s a lot of people. I don’t know. It really opens up possibilities. And then, since she made that cake–and she didn’t make it. She actually didn’t make it. She has a friend that works at a local grocery store that made it. She has since, she bought Bella and owl sweatshirt.
PAIGE: Aww.
ANGELA: Yeah, and it was so crazy. Yeah, I mean, it was just so cool that people can be so selfless. And that’s what I like to do. I like to give away things to the community. But I also buy, I also sell. I also use the buy/sell pages, which are also awesome.
PAIGE: No, there’s still value there. Like, I’m getting something cheaper than it would be in the store, for sure.
ANGELA: Right. Or getting rid of something.
PAIGE: Yeah, both sides of it are important. Yeah. I had this kind of pivotal experience, which I say a lot, but I traveled for two years in an RV all across the US and I loved it. It was really fascinating. But the thing that really impressed me, because I kind of always believed this, but didn’t really have proof, but people are good people. I think by in large anywhere you go, people want to do good things. We all, I think we’re wired for it. We get a lot of value out of providing for others. Out of helping out. It’s biogeochemical at this point.
ANGELA: Yeah.
PAIGE: You know, we get dopamine when we do good things for people.
ANGELA: Right. Yeah.
PAIGE: It’s legit. I don’t know if I believed it until I did this journey and it was, like I really do. Like random things, like you know coming up to Chris at OSCON for the first time and being like, hey. And then meeting you guys. And you’re like, yeah, let’s do this thing. There’s no–we’re not getting anything.
ANGELA: This thing being Women’s Tech Radio.
PAIGE: Women’s Tech Radio, yeah. We’re not–I don’t sound like Women’s Tech Radio is paying my bills or making me a fortune or anything-
ANGELA: Right.
PAIGE: I want to give back to the community and you wanted to too. And getting together and doing that is even more valuable.
ANGELA: Yep.
PAIGE: So, very cool. And I love that technology gives us space to do that.
ANGELA: Uh-huh. What’s your stack?
PAIGE: Okay. Stack question. So what are the tools that you use on a daily basis?
ANGELA: Oh, right. Yes.
PAIGE: What’s your stack is what we developers call it.
ANGELA: Whew, okay.
PAIGE: You got all like, flustered, possibly.
ANGELA: Yes. Here I go. Here I go. Um, wow. Okay. There’s a lot. So, Telegram for internal communication. We use Freshbooks for invoicing. Quickbooks for accounting. I use Google Docs. I use Excel. I use Pixelmator to do promotional artwork.
PAIGE: I love Pixelmator.
ANGELA: I use 99Designs, which I know isn’t an app you can go get.
PAIGE: No, it’s still something in your stack.
ANGELA: Yeah. I use 99Designs, in fact, one person in particular has designed all of our logo refresh that I started back in 2013, I think, ‘14. Yeah, the end of 2013. Let’s see, what else?
PAIGE: Instagram.
ANGELA: Yeah. Patreon, Instagram, Twitter, G+, Facebook, all of those. I’m trying to think. Reddit.
PAIGE: You really are like a social maven.
ANGELA: Yeah. I do a lot of social things here. Let me pull up my thing.
PAIGE: You mom frequent tabs?
ANGELA: Or just my Jupiter Broadcasting dropdown. So, I guess more Jupiter Broadcasting related, we have a lot of different subscriptions. A lot of people think I just start up a podcast. No, there’s a lot of backend subscriptions. We use Scale Engine. I’m not sure if BlipTV is still running. I don’t think it is. But we use Archive.org, Libsyn. There’s, we used to use Roku TV.
PAIGE: You guys use Dropbox too, right?
ANGELA: We definitely use Dropbox at the, where you have to pay a buttload now.
PAIGE: Yeah.
ANGELA: Yeah.
PAIGE: I pay for Dropbox, even personally.
ANGELA: Yeah.
PAIGE: It’s so good.
ANGELA: And we also rebranded email. And, of course, Colloquy for IRC.
PAIGE: Oh yeah.
ANGELA: I use Colloquy.. And sometimes LimeChat, but eh.
PAIGE: Yeah. I think the really impressive part about this stack is, like, barring a couple standouts, most of that is web apps.
ANGELA: Yes.
PAIGE: You can run almost your entire business from the browser.
ANGELA: Yes.
PAIGE: That’s very cool.
ANGELA: It is cool. It is.
PAIGE: That is a huge change in the world. If you think about business in the past couple years. It’s really been even in the past five years that can be true.
ANGELA: Yeah. I do very much dislike Google Docs.
PAIGE: Yeah.
ANGELA: A lot.
PAIGE: It’s getting better.
ANGELA: Specifically spreadsheets.
PAIGE: Google Sheets is weird, because they went with their formula setup instead of using Excel so a lot of people have trouble translating.
ANGELA: Yeah.
PAIGE: And then some of the major features that you’re used to in Excel-
ANGELA: Yeah.
PAIGE: Aren’t there or are really hidden.
ANGELA: Yes.
PAIGE: And I think Google Docs is going to have the same experience that Microsoft had going from Office 2003 to Office 2007, which the thing was that they did this interview where they were like, okay people want in the next version of office. And they did hundreds and hundreds of interviews and 99 percent of the request were features that were already in Office.
ANGELA: Yes. Right.
PAIGE: And they were just, people didn’t know how to get to them.
ANGELA: Sure.
PAIGE: So that’s why we had the huge facelift between 2003 and 2007.
ANGELA: Yeah. Well, the thing is, the reason why I use Google Sheets is because you just can’t beat accessing it anywhere online.
PAIGE: Yeah. And the share.
ANGELA: Yeah. And sharing is very easy. Yes. Right. Yeah, I do not like–I had a bad experience using Dropbox and people editing, multiple people editing the same doc. It just does not work. The collaboration was not there. I’m sure there’s collaboration tools out there that would be better, but I haven’t used them.
PAIGE: Yeah, well, I don’t know. i really think that, honestly, as picky as I am, Google kind of has the market on the collaboration. Although, EverNote is picking up.
ANGELA: I haven’t used it yet.
PAIGE: I love it. It’s my second brain.
ANGELA: Yeah.
PAIGE: Maybe it’s my first brain at this point.
ANGELA: And, and of course we use Bitly.
PAIGE: Bitly, yep.
ANGELA: Yeah, to shorten links.
PAIGE: Very cool.
ANGELA: Oh, and some Markdown. Markdown browser add-ons.
PAIGE: Yeah. I’m still trying to get my head around the Markdown thing.
ANGELA: Yeah?
PAIGE: Yeah.
ANGELA: I did a Fauxshow on it.
PAIGE: Really? Oh, I should check that one out.
ANGELA: I did.
PAIGE: I will admit, I don’t watch all of them.
ANGELA: But, honestly, I’ve pretty much forgotten everything. I just use the add-ons now. It’s so easy. I’ll show you after the show.
PAIGE: Cool.
ANGELA: It’s really cool.
PAIGE: Yeah, at this point I just write things and then edit it later. I just write in plain text and then make it fancy later.
ANGELA: Uh-huh. Okay.
PAIGE: We’ll figure it out. Well, this has been super fun. We’ll have to do some more later.
ANGELA: Uh-huh.
PAIGE: If you guys have questions for either of us, feel free to send them in. We are always listening to you on Twitter and we’re always interested in new guests that you’re like to hear about. Cool.
ANGELA: Yeah. Thanks for listening to this episode of Women’s Tech Radio.

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